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Name	G.S. Oberoi.
Date	2019/02/08 at 7:02 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. Dear Shri M.K.Kumar, Thank you for your advice of 8.2.2019 for getting the matter settled through CAT or Pensioners, Adaalat. I have all along been pursuing with the departments- SOI, DS&T, DoP&PW, DoE, etc. At my age(nearing 89 years), I have no energy to go through alternative means. I am thankful to you that at least I have been getting response to my queries. Hope you don’t mind my .correspondence with you. Can you give your expert opinion whether it is reasonable on the basis of actual bare facts I supplied to you, for me to claim pension on the basis of 18th stage in Concordance Table 44. Further, what is the purpose behind two sets of tables under the headings, ‘Min and Max’ for retirees during 6th CPC Period. If you don’t mind, may I know whether the Gov’t. has engaged you for replying to public queries on the internet or you are doing it on your own, as a Social Service. Thank you for your replies. With regards and best wishes, GS Oberoi, Noida.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (18 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/08 at 5:26 pm
Comment	In reply to Suresh. If it is MACP upgradrations of completion of 10th year pay level changes, other any promotions no pay benefits.
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Post	7th CPC Increment (162 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/08 at 5:17 pm
Comment	In reply to Sajjad khan. Yes you will be given grade pay 50% of ₹ 200/- extra plus D.R. as applicable with every years increment differences with D.R. applicable will be given to you for 12 years from 1/1/2006 and you will be from 7th CPC from 1/1/2016 from Matrix level 6 to 7 difference uptill settlement you are eligible. Contact your ex-employer/PAO..
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Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/08 at 12:39 pm
Comment	In reply to ARMukherjee. Mr.AR.MUKHERJEE For Information :Please see now the Bunching of stages of pay in the pre-7th CPC pay scales consequent upon fixation of pay in the revised pay scales based on 7th CPC Regarding issued No.1-6/2016-IC/E-IIIA Govt. of India,Ministry of Finance,Department of Expenditure, North Block, New Delhi Dated the 07th February, 2019. One day you may also receive your bunching stage. Bunching of stages of pay in the pre-7th CPC pay scales consequent upon fixation of pay in the revised pay scales based on 7th CPC. You may also take this issue with NATIONAL COMMITTEE LEADERS through any of registered Pensioner’s Association or lodge a complaint in the site ; http://www.pensionersportal,gov.in One day you may also receive your bunching stage will solve.
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Post	7th Pay Commission Pension Matrix Tables (9 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/08 at 9:54 am
Comment	In reply to G.S. Oberoi.. Dear Mr. Oberai, Sir your case is settled by your department, if not favorable you can go to through cat or Pensioners audalat. You are delayed so much time past several years. In this age you should take without tension and get additional Pension more percentages, otherwise it will be affected your health Sir. Please settle this with the close relatives/friends & properly as early as possible.. I am in Chennai, Tamil nadu Sir. With regards. M.K.Kumar.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (17 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/08 at 9:27 am
Comment	In reply to G.S. Oberoi.. Dear Mr. Oberai, Your departmental (promotional) queries will be settled by the same with them only. If it is not settled you can go to the Cat. Thanks.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (16 Comments)
Name	Ajay S.Lal.
Date	2019/02/07 at 5:38 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.KUMAR. My basic pay as on 1/7/2018 is Rs.30600/- Thanks
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Post	7th CPC MACP Scheme (219 Comments)
Date	2019/02/07 at 3:58 pm
Comment	In reply to G.S. Oberoi.. Dear Shri MK Kumar, Sorry to have posted my reply twice, as I thought my first Reply failed to get posted. Thanks. GS Oberoi.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (15 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 1:12 pm
Comment	In reply to Jehangir. Normally 3% of your old basic pay & rounded off to higher or equal amount in that matrix level.
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Post	FR & SR Rules – What says Rules regarding increment..! (13 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 1:06 pm
Comment	In reply to Govind RAM Saini. No. They may give punishment or they will not give one increment & you are got bad remarks it will affect your future upgradutations of MACP.
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Post	7th CPC Travelling Allowance (51 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 12:57 pm
Comment	In reply to sameer makandar. Since you got addition increment from 28/7/16 in same matrix level your next increment will be on 1/7/2018 only at your next higher matrix level.
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Post	All Comments on 7th Pay Commission News – January 2019 (3 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 12:48 pm
Comment	In reply to Manisha. Due to the condition of your health (If it is major dices) it may be allowed. But appointment from 2004 you are not allowed GOVERNMENT PENSION, if they have recovered NPS accumulated amount with other amounts, it will be given to you with interest.
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Post	7th CPC Voluntary Retirement Scheme (311 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 12:38 pm
Comment	In reply to RAJENDRA SRIVASTAVA. You have not mentioned which state, we have to see the Rules of that State. Any how you are not getting GOVERNMENT PENSION, so will get your NPS amount accumulated and other amounts recovered from you at any time.
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Post	7th CPC Voluntary Retirement Scheme (310 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 12:28 pm
Comment	In reply to Ajay S.Lal.. Mention your basic pay as on 1/7/2018, it might have been not given your due to your bench mark.
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Post	7th CPC MACP Scheme (218 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 12:15 pm
Comment	In reply to ARMukherjee. This is to inform you that, you are the senior in getting earlier promotions, but your junior got more service than years. (more increments in lower post comparing to your service). You might have been joined later as per the date of birth, he might have been joined earlier as date of birth comparing to you. Mostly this will be happens in different of departments/Office & may be due to the reservation quota. Also due to arise minimum and maximum in every pay commissions. This is story as TORTISE & RABBIT , not we are calling story name RABIT & TORTISE. THIS IS NOT ANNOMILY, IT IS FATE.
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Post	7th Pay Commission Pension Matrix Tables (8 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/07 at 10:29 am
Comment	In reply to Rajender Singh. Not possible any one of home town or All India LTC can avail between two years.
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Post	7th CPC LTC Rules (175 Comments)
Name	Jehangir
Date	2019/02/07 at 9:03 am
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. What will be the rate of increment
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Name	G.S. Oberoi.
Date	2019/02/06 at 11:17 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. Dear Shri M.K.Kumar, Thank you for your prompt response. To clarify further, my total qualifying service is 34 years 8 months from 1.8.1953 to 31.3.1988(date of retirement). I was promoted to JAG post of Deputy Director (equivalent to SE, CPWD) on 15.5.1970. This post then carried the pay scale of Rs. 3700/- to 5000/- in IV CPC Terms, but was upgraded from 1.1.96 and given the scale of Rs. 14300/- to 18300/- (V CPC Terms). I was promoted to the Functionally Higher Level Post of Director on 10.12. 1980(the highest scale post that existed in the department for the Cadre) hand held it till my retirement.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (4 Comments)
Name	G.S. Oberoi.
Date	2019/02/06 at 5:54 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. My dear Shri MK Kumar, Thank you for your prompt response of 4th Feb. 2019. I sincerely appreciate the time you are spending to clarify my doubts. I intentionally did not give any intricate details to keep my query, as simple and straight-forward, as possible, and also to save your valuable time. Further requisite details are as under: I entered Srvey of India, Group ‘A’ service in 1954 through Open UPSC Competitive Exam. held in 1953(in which I stood First) and retired on 31.3.1988 as the senior-most civilian Director of the Department….
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (7 Comments)
Name	ARMukherjee
Date	2019/02/06 at 5:03 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. Thanks for reply.My basic question is that whether a higher grade employees drawing higher pay in 6thcpc will get less pay on impletation of 7thcpc then a junior employee drawing less pay under 6thcpc.Details pay particulars has already been furnised in my earlier question.Naturally such fixation of pay will reflect in calculating pension also so I raised the issue. Is this not an anomaly?
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Post	7th Pay Commission Pension Matrix Tables (7 Comments)
Name	faltu
Date	2019/02/06 at 2:55 pm
Comment	In reply to S M REDDY. correct
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Post	DL-33 ARREAR CALCULATOR FOR PRE-2006 DEFENCE PENSIONERS (48 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/05 at 6:22 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. Madam, Increment increased 3% of your basic pay is not important comparing, during the period with your born baby’s happyness & heath is very important. Any how your salary will not affected. At that any how from July,19 D,A may also get it with arrears. Enjoy with baby. WITH BEST REGARDS.
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Post	FR & SR Rules – What says Rules regarding increment..! (11 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/05 at 5:32 pm
Comment	In reply to Subhash Anandrao Pandit. Only on completion of 30years as on 15/12/2028 as Level 7 (GRADE PAY 4600).
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Post	7th CPC Pay Fixation on Promotion & MACP Calculator (149 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/05 at 5:24 pm
Comment	In reply to R.B. YADAV. If MACP upgradrations from April,19 basic pay as ₹ 62,200/-in level 8 & increment on 1/7/20 as ₹ 64,100/-. If it is normal promotion due to retirement/vacant post no monitory benefits & increment on 1/7/19 as ₹ 62,200/- in level 7.
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Post	7th CPC Pay Fixation on Promotion & MACP Calculator (148 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/05 at 5:07 pm
Comment	In reply to Sadashiv. I cannot understand for we ? We stands for two persons, single female government employee can take CCL. It is not given for both husband and wife.
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Post	7th CPC Report on Child Care Leave (CCL) (113 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/05 at 4:49 pm
Comment	In reply to Shilpa. No. After joining duty increment will be given, if more than 180 days increment will be postponed to next year July only.
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Post	FR & SR Rules – What says Rules regarding increment..! (10 Comments)
Name	Mihir
Date	2019/02/04 at 10:40 am
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. Mr. Kajal sen will get no hike. Kindly refer the circular i.e. his normal service (element) pension + disability pension should be < than 18000/- if am not wrong.
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Post	7th CPC Defence Pension – Modification in Minimum ceiling – DESW Orders dt.29.1.2019 (4 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/04 at 10:40 am
Comment	In reply to G.S. Oberoi.. In knowledge as mentioned only Service of 17years it cannot be given Pension for that period of your retirement, it might have been appointed in previous Service atleast 3 years and got VRS or previous service in another department & got superannuation at the age of 58 years. You may note that previous services of 10 years increments with D.A. applicable at that time & due to any upgradrations of basic pay due to if any promotions in that period was merged, in that contest your Matrix level (13) stage 1 was given you for promotion (not minimum) other balance services were merged in previous pay commissions in every ten years and fixed maximum. Further you may note as per your age factors above 80 years additional Pension of minimum 20% and if more than that as per the rules an extra percentages will be eligible increased ages. Not as mentioned as minimum amount & 17 years increments in each matrix level, if you are not got any promotions it will be in 17 years same level. It is for coming service employees That rule was now changed minimum ever 10 years as upgradrations of matrix level without any promotions as MACP. Please clarify if it correct on my part to asked your last pay. Thanks for such questions, so that all viers may know it such in their services.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (10 Comments)
Name	G.S. Oberoi.
Date	2019/02/03 at 5:58 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. My dear Shri M.K.Kumar, I am sincerely thankful to you for your detailed prompt reply of 3.2.2019 at 5.58 PM. I wish to bring to your kind notice that the pension of Rs. 61550 for a retiree from this post is the Minimum, being based on the First stage of the Concordance Table 44. I am actually entitled to pension on the basis of 18th stage, allowing for over 17 years’ service in this Post, before my retirement. I may point out that a number of my juniors who put in less years of service than mine in the Post are drawing much higher pension than the Minimum of Rs. 61550/-.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (10 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/03 at 5:58 pm
Comment	This answer is to Mr. OBREROI Further inform you that your 4th CPC basic pay is ₹ 4,800/-,,in 5th CPC ₹ 14,300/-,, 6th CPC ₹ 47,890/-,7th CPC ₹ 47890 multiple by 2.57 = 123077.30 MATRIX LEVEL 13 (GP 8700) stage 1 as ₹ 1,23,100/- 50% as Notional Pension as ₹ 61,550/- from 1/1/2016 plus applicable dearness relief from time to time. The same was reflected in Concerdance Table No. 44.. Still you are not satisfied, complaint in Pensioners portal site
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (9 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/03 at 1:50 pm
Comment	This is to inform you that this site and viewers to solve the problem of not know person’s doughts are settling answers with the orders and rules. Actually National Committee Leaders, recognised Pensioners Association Members are settle your policy matters as you mentioned. Kindly approach with your problem & settle the issues, it will be benefited all. Thanks.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (7 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/03 at 1:50 pm
Comment	In reply to G.S. Oberoi.. This is to inform you that this site and viewers to solve the problem of not know person’s doughts are settling answers with the orders and rules. Actually National Committee Leaders, recognised Pensioners Association Members are settle your policy matters as you mentioned. Kindly approach with your problem & settle the issues, it will be benefited all. Thanks.
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (7 Comments)
Name	G.S. Oberoi.
Date	2019/02/03 at 12:26 am
Comment	Dear Shri M.K. Kumar, Thanks for your reply dated 10th August, 2018 to my query t0 DoE and DoP&PW, which I saw just now. I am sorry to point out that your reply does not give me the answer, as explained, below: I retired from the post of Deputy Director, Survey of India(a Central Engineering Service) on 31.3.1988. This Post (being equivalent to SE, CPWD), was Upgraded and given the scale of Rs. 14300/- to 183oo/- (corresponding to Rs. 4500/- to 5700/- in terms of IV CPC), w.e.f. 1.1.96. All the Deputy. Directors, in service on 1.1.96 in the Survey of India were, accordingly, PLACED in the Scale of Rs. 14300/- to 18300/- from 1.1.96….
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Post	7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners (6 Comment)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/02 at 10:26 pm
Comment	In reply to Dilip Kumar. If your pay upgraded in MACP on 24/9/2014 from level 2 to 3 after the promotion on 28/1/19, no monitory benefits onlly your changes next higher designation..
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Post	7th CPC Pay Fixation Calculator (6 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/02 at 6:08 pm
Comment	In reply to Vasant padhye. It is long periods of 12 years of grade pay increased from 4200 to 4600, it involves every year increments changes, some may got in between promotions and may retired, in view of these increased amounts in ever stage so it is difficult to calculate individual’s. Wait some solutions or any software will solve this problem by the leaders are experts in these fields or any formula may guide.
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Post	4th, 5th , 6th and 7th Pay Scale Table for 7th CPC Pension Calculator (24 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/02 at 12:25 pm
Comment	In reply to JaiRam. First spell of continues leave after it will be 80% of salary. Increment will also be postponed to next year and after joining duty.
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Post	7th CPC Report on Child Care Leave (CCL) (111 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/02 at 11:36 am
Comment	In reply to ARMukherjee. It is stages of senior of Service your sealing limit from ₹ 37620 to 37700 in stage 12, if your sealing crosses 37710 you will be getting ₹ 49900/-. Other person’s stage is 29 of ₹ 37,590 to 38,710/- due to crossing ₹ 10/- he is getting ₹ 49,750/-. These differences are due to getting Promotions in Service and also appointed in early service getting increments in the previous years. These are reflected in the Matrix levels also in rounded off the formula 1. Basic pay plus grade pay multiple by 2.57 total rounded off as per early Services but due to late Promotions. Appreciate, seens three differences, due to this viewers all may note. Thanks.
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Post	7th Pay Commission Pension Matrix Tables (4 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/02 at 9:27 am
Comment	In reply to RAVI KUMAR. Since there is no pay scales for normal Promotions due to retirement/vacant post in the 7th CPC from 1/1/2016 only next designation changes but no monitory benefits. More over you got the 2nd MACP upgradrations on 1/9/18, your next 3rd MACP upgradrations of basic pay changes in level 7 on 1/9/28.
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Post	7th CPC Pay Fixation on Promotion & MACP Calculator (145 Comments)
Name	Kajal Sen
Date	2019/02/01 at 6:17 pm
Comment	In reply to M.K.Kumar. Thank you.
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Post	7th CPC Defence Pension – Modification in Minimum ceiling – DESW Orders dt.29.1.2019 (3 Comment)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/01 at 3:40 pm
Comment	In reply to Kajal Sen. As per the ammendment leter it should be Pension as ₹ 9,000/-p.m. only.
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Post	7th CPC Defence Pension – Modification in Minimum ceiling – DESW Orders dt.29.1.2019 (2 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/01 at 3:31 pm
Comment	Good effort for latest comments most of the topics in single topic. If any comments more than the ten numbers below published it can also seen and answered by the viewers. Thanks.
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Post	All Comments on 7th Pay Commission News – January 2019 (1 Comment)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/01 at 1:10 pm
Comment	In reply to Srinivasan K. You can click the button above in this site as per your level of matrix so you can see at your stage of amount as 7th CPC basic pay, in that 50% of amount as your pension, 30% as family pensionfrom 1/1/2016.
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Post	7th Pay Commission Pension Matrix Tables (2 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/01 at 12:15 pm
Comment	In reply to R. NIRMALA. There are more empanelled hospitals in Madurai for emergency treatment. If you want CGHS CARD for every year and renew it, after such years you can pay the balance years and make it as life time card .If you don’t require card you can avail the facility of FIXED MEDICAL ALLOWANCE of ₹ 1,000/-p.m.
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Post	Contribution for Life Time CGHS Card for Pensioners (33 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/01 at 10:51 am
Comment	In reply to sweta. After 10 years upgradrations as basic pay in next MACP.
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Post	7th CPC Pay Fixation on Promotion & MACP Calculator (143 Comments)
Name	*M.K.KUMAR
Date	2019/02/01 at 7:46 am
Comment	In reply to Nasir. Upto your life time, after your spouse’s life time as family pension & any of your dependents if eligible as per rules.
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Post	7th CPC Voluntary Retirement Scheme (307 Comments)