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7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners

July 14, 2017 admin 32 Comments

7th CPC Concordance Table 44 for Pre-2016 Pensioners

7th Pay Commission Concordance Tables for Pre-2016 Pensioners and Family Pensioners.

Revision of pension will be done by notional pay fixation under each intervening pay commission based on the formula for revision of pay.

Based on the fitment tables provided by the Department of Expenditure, Concordance Tables for fixation of notional pay and pension and family pension of employees who retired/died in various grades during 4th, 5th and 6th pay commission periods have been prepared and the same are enclosed herewith.

From 01.01.1986 to 31.12.1995 4500-150-5700
From 01.01.1996 to 31.12.2005 14300-400-18300
From 01.01.2006 to 31.12.2015 37400-67000 GP 8700
Corresponding level w.e.f. 1.1.2016 Level-13 (123100-215900)

A- Basic Pay From 01.01.1986 to 31.12.1995
B- Basic Pay From 01.01.1996 to 31.12.2005
C- Basic Pay From 01.01.2006 to 31.12.2015
D- Pay range for pensioners retired during 1.1.2006 to 31.12.2015
E- Notional Pay as on 01.01.2016
F- Revised Pension/Enhanced Family pension (if applicable) w.e.f. 1.1.2016
G- Revised Familly pension w.e.f. 1.1.2016

A B C D E F G
      Min Max      
4500 14300 46100   47890 123100 61550 36930
4650 14300 46100   47890 123100 61550 36930
4800 14300 46100 – 47890 123100 61550 36930
4950 14700 46100   47890 123100 61550 36930
5100 14700 46100   47890 123100 61550 36930
5250 14700 46100   47890 123100 61550 36930
5400 15100 47230   47890 123100 61550 36930
5550 15100 47230   47890 123100 61550 36930
5700 15100 47230   47890 123100 61550 36930
5850 15500 47230   47890 123100 61550 36930
6000 15900 48390 47900 49330 126800 63400 38040
6150 16300 48390 47900 49330 126800 63400 38040
  16700 49590 49340 50810 130600 65300 39180
  17100 49590 49340 50810 130600 65300 39180
  17500 50820 50820 52330 134500 67250 40350
  17900 50820 50820 52330 134500 67250 40350
  18300 52090 52340 53890 138500 69250 41550
  18700 52090 52340 53890 138500 69250 41550
  19100 53400 52340 53890 138500 69250 41550
  19500 53400 52340 53890 138500 69250 41550
      53900 55520 142700 71350 42810
      55530 57190 147000 73500 44100
      57200 58910 151400 75700 45420
      58920 60660 155900 77950 46770
      60670 62490 160600 80300 48180
      62500 64350 165400 82700 49620
      64360 66300 170400 85200 51120
      66310 68280 175500 87750 52650
      68290 70350 180800 90400 54240
      70360 72450 186200 93100 55860
      72460 74630 191800 95900 57540
      74640 75700 197600 98800 59280
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Comments

  1. GS Oberoi says

    November 6, 2021 at 3:45 pm

    IMMEDIATE
    To
    The Secretary, DoE.
    The Secretary, DoP&PW.
    Sir,
    It is noticed that only 12 stages/cells have been provided with Concordance Table 44 for calculation of pension on Full Parity w.e.f. 1.1.2016 for those who retired during the IV CPC Period(1.1.86 to 31.12.1995). As a result, correct pension of those who rendered 12 0r more years’ service in the scale cannot be determined by the pension Sanctioning authorities. There are a number of officers of Survey of India, who retired during the IV CPC Period in this scale, with over 11 years’ service and their correct pension has to be determined.
    It is, therefore, requested that more stages/cells may kindly be provided as are available for those retiring in V and VI CPC Periods.

    In the meantime, to overcome the unforeseen difficulty, a general order may kindly be issued that for correct pension determination such pensioners may be considered to have retired in V CPC Period, as the pension is independent of the date of retirement. An early action is requested.
    Thanking you,
    Yours faithfully,
    (GS Oberoi),
    President, All India Association of Retired Officers of Survey ofIndia(AIAROSI, E 64, Sector 21, Jal Vayu Vihar, Noida(UP). 201301.

    Reply
  2. GS Oberoi says

    November 5, 2021 at 11:27 pm

    Gentle REMINDER.

    I had respectfully addressed Secretaries DoE and DoP&PW in my comment on 25th August 2021. I would request that someone may kindly take action.
    I am still drawing pension at the Minimum of the post as for ‘Modified’ Parity, whereas I am entitled to pension under Full Parity from 1.1..2016 with use of Concordance Table at the 18th stage. At present, there are many cases of Anomalies, as a result of failure of action by authorities.
    My case is still pending in the offices of Sec., DS&T and of Survey of India.
    GS Oberoi, E 64, Sector 21, Noida(UP). 201301.

    Reply
  3. Ramesh says

    August 29, 2021 at 1:04 am

    What is the last date for sending life certificate for pensioners to the bank year 2021-22 in Gujarat state

    Reply
    • Ramesh Bhatt says

      September 2, 2021 at 1:06 am

      Last date for sending life certificate pensioners to the Bank of Baroda in Gujarat state

      Reply
  4. G S Oberoi says

    August 25, 2021 at 4:47 pm

    IMMEDIATE
    Secretary, DOE.
    Secretary, DoP&PW.
    Sir,
    I have been drawing pension at the minimum of the pay scale of Dy. Director, Survey of India(a Central Engineering Service, Class I), under DoP&PW OM of 17.12.1998, for Modified Parity. The post was equivalent to the Post of SE, CPWD and carried the upgraded revised scale of Rs. 14,300 to 18,300 (in terms of V CPC) from 1.1.96.
    My basic pension was Rs. 7150 and Rs. 23050, respectively from 1.1.96 and 1.1.2006.
    I had put in more than 17 years’ service as Dy. Director before retirement on 31.3.1988 and am, therefore, entitled to pension of Rs.79250/- from 1.1.2016 under Full Parity with reference to Notional pay at the 18th stage of the applicable Concordance Table 44(for V CPC period),, as at present only 12. stages are shown under IV CPC . However, I have not yet been paid my due pension w.e.f. 1.1.2016, with the result that my juniors who put in less service in that very scale are drawing higher pension than mine(which is at the mminimum), which is highly anomalous.. And, there are other similar cases like mine in the department.
    I, therefore, request that a General Order may kindly be issued for compliance by all concerned that the pensioners are entitled to receive pension from 1.1.2016 under Full Parity with reference to Notional pay appearing at the appropriate stage of the applicable Concordance Table.
    Also it is requested that more stages may be provided for Retirees during the IV CPC period also, as for those retiring in V CPC period, as pension is not dependent on the date of retirement.
    Thanking you,
    Your faithfully,
    (GS Oberoi), President, All India Association of Retired Officers of Survey of India, E 64, Sector 21, Jal Vayu Vihar, Noida(UP). 201301.

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  5. Gurbaksh Singh Oberoi says

    April 8, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    Sir,
    I have repeatedly requested that a General Order may kindly be issued for information and compliance of all concerned that the pension of those pensioners whose post had been upgraded after their retirement is NOT to be determined Routinely on the basis of their last pay drawn, but with the use of the appropriate Concordance Table pertaining to the Revised scale of the Post last held.
    This is necessary as some Pension Sanctioning Authorities are still fixing their Pension Wrongly on the basis of Last Pay drawn(in the then prevailing lower scale), which is IRRELEVANT in their cases. A case in point is that of Retd. SE, CPWD(and equivalent in Central Engineering Services) who are not being paid pension on the basis of Concordance Table 44, applicable to them.
    Immediate action is requested, as some pensioners are suffering in the absence of this clarifying Order.

    Yours faithfully,
    (GS Oberoi),
    President, All India Association of Retired Officers of Survey of India(AIAROSI), E 64, Sector 21, Noida(UP). 201301.
    Affiliated to Bharat Pensioners Samaj, New Delhi.
    Tel. for messages 9811416099(M).

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  6. G.S. Oberoi. says

    June 25, 2019 at 10:49 am

    IMMEDIATE.
    The Secretary, DoP&PW, New Delhi.
    Sir,
    I have repeatedly requested that a General Order may kindly be issued for information and compliance of all concerned that the pension of those pensioners whose post had been upgraded after their retirement is NOT to be determined Routinely on the basis of their last pay drawn, but with the use of the appropriate Concordance Table pertaining to the Revised scale of the Post last held.
    This is necessary as some Pension Sanctioning Authorities are still fixing their Pension Wrongly on the basis of Last Pay drawn(in the then prevailing lower scale), which is IRRELEVANT in their cases. A case in point is that of Retd. SE, CPWD(and equivalent in Central Engineering Services) who are not being paid pension on the basis of Concordance Table 44, applicable to them.
    An immediate action is requested, as some pensioners are suffering in the absence of this clarifying Order.
    Yours faithfully,
    (GS Oberoi),
    President, All India Association of Retired Officers of Survey of India(AIAROSI), E 64, Sector 21, Noida(UP). 201301.
    Affiliated to Bharat Pensioners Samaj, New Delhi.
    Tel. for messages 9811416099(M).

    Reply
  7. GS Oberoi says

    April 3, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    To
    The Secretary, DoE.
    The Secretary, DoP&PW.
    Sir,
    I had made comments addressed to you on 18. 2. 2018, requesting you to kindly enlighten all concerned, the reason for providing two columns for pensioners, in Concordance Table 44, retiring in 6th CPC, one under the heading Min. and another under the heading Max.
    Also, I requested you to kindly issue General Clarificatory orders on connected matters to avoid different interpretations by the concerned authorities. It is requested to kindly reply.
    Thanking you,
    Yours faithfully,
    (G. S. Oberoi), President, AIAROSI, E 64, Sector 21, Jal Vayu Vihar, Noida(UP). 201301.
    Tel. 9811416099(M). for messages.

    Reply
  8. G.S. Oberoi. says

    February 10, 2019 at 12:14 am

    The Secretary, DoE.
    The Secretary, DoP&PW.
    Sir,
    I had made my above comments on 16.2.2018.
    1). I request you to kindly inform the purpose of providing two different tables under the headings, ‘Min and Max’, under Concordance Table 44 for pensioners who retired during the period of VI CPC(1.1.2006 to 31.12.2015).
    2). What is the pension of a pensioner with qualifying service of 34 years and 8 months, with last period of service in Post carrying scale Rs. 4500 to 5700( IV CPC Terms) for over 17 years? Is it Rs. 87550 or 67250, by using the Concordance Table at the 18th stage?
    3). Since under the accepted Principle of Parity, the Pension is to be the same irrespective of the date of retirement, kindly confirm that a pensioner may choose to consider having retired under any period- 4th, 5th or 6th CPC.
    Thanking you,
    Yours faithfully,
    (GS Oberoi),
    President, AIAROSI, Noida(UP).

    Reply
  9. M.K.Kumar says

    February 3, 2019 at 5:58 pm

    This answer is to Mr. OBREROI,

    Further inform you that your 4th CPC basic pay is ₹ 4,800/-,,in 5th CPC ₹ 14,300/-,, 6th CPC ₹ 47,890/-,7th CPC ₹ 47890 multiple by 2.57 = 123077.30 MATRIX LEVEL 13 (GP 8700) stage 1 as ₹ 1,23,100/- 50% as Notional Pension as ₹ 61,550/- from 1/1/2016 plus applicable dearness relief from time to time. The same was reflected in Concerdance Table No. 44.. Still you are not satisfied, complaint in Pensioners portal site .

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    • G.S. Oberoi. says

      February 4, 2019 at 12:01 am

      My dear Shri M.K.Kumar,
      I am sincerely thankful to you for your detailed prompt reply of 3.2.2019 at 5.58 PM.
      I wish to bring to your kind notice that the pension of Rs. 61550 for a retiree from this post is the Minimum, being based on the First stage of the Concordance Table 44.
      I am actually entitled to pension on the basis of 18th stage, allowing for over 17 years’ service in this Post, before my retirement. I may point out that a number of my juniors who put in less years of service than mine in the Post are drawing much higher pension than the Minimum of Rs. 61550/-.
      The doubt arose because two different figures of Rs. 87750/- and Rs. 67250/- are pssible depending on whether the Table with heading ‘Minimum’ or ‘Maximum’ is used. I will be thankful if you could enlighten me on this point.
      I am convinced that under the Rules, my pension cannot be less than Rs. 67250, in any case.. I will be thankful for your advice as you are better versed with the Rules. The very purpose of long Concordance Tables seems to be to allow pension at the correct applicable stage to the pensioners, depending on their completed years of service in the last Post, before retirement.
      I shall be thankful for your early reply.
      With regards,
      Yours Sincerely,

      (G.S. Oberoi).. Noida.

      Reply
      • M.K.Kumar says

        February 4, 2019 at 10:40 am

        Dear Mr. Oberai,

        In knowledge as mentioned only Service of 17years it cannot be given Pension for that period of your retirement, it might have been appointed in previous Service atleast 3 years and got VRS or previous service in another department & got superannuation at the age of 58 years. You may note that previous services of 10 years increments with D.A. applicable at that time & due to any upgradrations of basic pay due to if any promotions in that period was merged, in that contest your Matrix level (13) stage 1 was given you for promotion (not minimum) other balance services were merged in previous pay commissions in every ten years and fixed maximum. Further you may note as per your age factors above 80 years additional Pension of minimum 20% and if more than that as per the rules an extra percentages will be eligible increased ages. Not as mentioned as minimum amount & 17 years increments in each matrix level, if you are not got any promotions it will be in 17 years same level. It is for coming service employees That rule was now changed minimum ever 10 years as upgradrations of matrix level without any promotions as MACP. Please clarify if it correct on my part to asked your last pay. Thanks for such questions, so that all viers may know it such in their services.
        There is some mistakes, omission of wards/letters in that above, sorry for it. If you want any clarification write to my mail : kmrds64@gmail.com ………. Thanks.

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        • M.K.KUMAR says

          February 4, 2019 at 1:23 pm

          There is some mistakes, omission of wards/letters in that above, sorry for it. If you want any clarification write to my mail : kmrds64@gmail.com ………. Thanks.

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        • G.S. Oberoi. says

          February 6, 2019 at 5:54 pm

          My dear Shri MK Kumar,
          Thank you for your prompt response of 4th Feb. 2019. I sincerely appreciate the time you are spending to clarify my doubts.
          I intentionally did not give any intricate details to keep my query, as simple and straight-forward, as possible, and also to save your valuable time.
          Further requisite details are as under:
          I entered Srvey of India, Group ‘A’ service in 1954 through Open UPSC Competitive Exam. held in 1953(in which I stood First) and retired on 31.3.1988 as the senior-most civilian Director of the Department.
          I was promoted to STS post in 1958. Thereafter, I was promoted to the JAG post of Deputy Director (equivalent to SE, CPWD) on 15.5.1970. I was promoted to the next Functionally Higher Level Post of Director on 10.12.1980. I retired on 31.3.1988. My date of birth is 1.4.1930.
          Since the Post of Director(which I held on retirement) became it became defunct in 1989(with change of Recruitment Rules), no Revised pay for that Erstwhile post of Director was Recommended by the V CPC, as this post having become defunct (in the intervening period) did not constitute a post of the SOI Cadre for their consideration, at that time. However, they duly recommended in Para. 168.3 of their Report, that any post for which they omitted to recommend Revised scale w.e.f. 1.1 96 should be given a COMMENSURATE REVISED SCALE DULY MAINTAINING HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL RELITIVITIES.
          Since, inspite of all efforts made, no ‘Commensurate’ scale(which presumably is for the Chief Engineer(SAG), being the next higher post above SE) has yet been allotted for the Erstwhile post of Director from which I retired, I am forced to accept my pension for the lower post of Deputy Director(equivalent to SE, CPWD) to which I was promoted on 15.5.1970 and which I am supposed to have held(for over 17 years) till my retirement on 31.3.1988 (without getting any benefit for my promotion). That is why I am claiming for pension to be fixed at the 18th stage in Concordance Table 44.
          With the details of service now furnished by me, kindly confirm(if so), that I am not entitled to get my pension fixed under the Table with heading ‘Minimum’.
          Also, that my pension is to be fixed with reference to 18th stage of Table 44.
          I will be glad to furnish any other details you wish to have to give your opinion.
          I am intentionally not adding any extra details which I consider are not pertinent to the issue.
          The scale of pay(of Deputy Director, SOI) before its Upgradation on 1.1.96 was Rs. 3700/- to 5000/- in IV CPC Terms. Upgrade Pay scale in V. CPC Terms:: Rs. 14300/- to 18300/-.
          The scale of pay for the Erstwhile Post of Director was Rs. 4500/- to 5700/- in IV VPC Terms. Its Upgraded Revised pay w.e.f. 1.1.96 has not yet been given.
          With regards,
          GS Oberoi.

          PS. I can send copies of pertinent letters I wrote to DoP&PW, on your email. But I do not want to burden you unnecessarily. GS Oberoi.

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          • M.K.Kumar says

            February 8, 2019 at 9:27 am

            Dear Mr. Oberai,

            Your departmental (promotional) queries will be settled by the same with them only. If it is not settled you can go to the Cat.

            Thanks.

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          • M.K.Kumar says

            February 8, 2019 at 9:54 am

            Dear Mr. Oberai,

            Sir your case is settled by your department, if not favorable you can go to through cat or Pensioners audalat. You are delayed so much time past several years. In this age you should take without tension and get additional Pension more percentages, otherwise it will be affected your health Sir.

            Please settle this with the close relatives/friends & properly as early as possible.. I am in Chennai, Tamil nadu Sir.

            With regards.

            M.K.Kumar.

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            • G.S. Oberoi. says

              February 8, 2019 at 7:02 pm

              Dear Shri M.K.
              Kumar,
              Thank you for your advice of 8.2.2019 for getting the matter settled through CAT or Pensioners, Adaalat.
              I have all along been pursuing with the departments- SOI, DS&T, DoP&PW, DoE, etc.
              At my age(nearing 89 years), I have no energy to go through alternative means.
              I am thankful to you that at least I have been getting response to my queries.
              Hope you don’t mind my .correspondence with you.
              Can you give your expert opinion whether it is reasonable on the basis of actual bare facts I supplied to you, for me to claim pension on the basis of 18th stage in Concordance Table 44.
              Further, what is the purpose behind two sets of tables under the headings, ‘Min and Max’ for retirees during 6th CPC Period.
              If you don’t mind, may I know whether the Gov’t. has engaged you for replying to public queries on the internet or you are doing it on your own, as a Social Service.
              Thank you for your replies.
              With regards and best wishes, GS Oberoi, Noida.

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              • M.K.KUMAR says

                February 9, 2019 at 2:25 pm

                Dear Mr.Oberoi,

                This is to inform you that in the 6th CPC they have added full grade pay for serving employees & for pensioners it will 50% of their basic pay as pension. The pay scales were removed for designated posts, in 6th CPC on the basis of Grade Pay they make in 7th CPC as MATRIX LEVEL. In that matrix level you will in service it counts from first year if you are in 18 years in service it in in the stage 18. Moreover the calculations are as your last basic pay in the 4th CPC of Rs.5850, in 6th CPC maximum 47,890 x 2.57 it comes 123077.3 in 7th CPC it will be rounded to Rs.123100, 50% notional pension as Rs.61550/-next stage of last basic crosses Rs.6000, In 6th CPC minimum 47,900 x 2.57 as Rs.123103/- pension rounded off to 63,400/-.

                Good news for you that from the Month of APRIL,2020 you get addition pension of 30% with D.R.

                I am doing Social work, to spend time continuing my knowledge with used in service after retirement.

                With Best Regards,

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                • G.S. Oberoi. says

                  February 11, 2019 at 4:00 pm

                  Dear Shri M. K.
                  Kumar,
                  Thank you for your reply of 9.2.2019.
                  According to my understanding of use of Concordance Tables, I feel that their purpose is to allow fixation at the 18th stage for one who has put in over 17 years ‘ service in the last post, before retirement. My juniors who retired in this post with less than 18 years’ service are drawing more pension than Rs. 61550. That is a glaring Anomaly.
                  The purpose behind two different tables with headings, Min and Max is not understood by me. Could you kindly explain? Also, service in different periods should not result in different pensions.
                  I am happy to find that you are spending time usefully after retirement and enlightening many on the Rules.
                  With best wishes, GS Oberoi.

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                • G.S. Oberoi. says

                  February 12, 2019 at 6:57 pm

                  Dear Shri MK Kumar,
                  From your letter, it appears that a pensioner with my length of service would be entitled to different pensions depending on whether he retired in 4th or 6th CPC Periods.
                  This goes against the Principle of Parity!
                  With good wishes, GS Oberoi.

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                  • M.K.Kumar says

                    February 13, 2019 at 4:58 pm

                    Dear Sir,

                    Give elaparately with examples of last pay of 4th & 6th CPC. please.

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                    • M.K.KUMAR says

                      February 14, 2019 at 11:36 am

                      Sir, You can compare with 7th CPC MATRIX TABLE. If any parity is there please so it. Further informing you that the Pension Rules are changed (upto 5th CPC there was minimum qualification is on completion of 33 years only) as FULL PENSION . From the 6th CPC it was added GRADE PAY and 50% of last basic pay as PENSION. Pay Scales for designations/promoted posts were removed as in the 7th CPC as MATRIX LEVELS as per the pay ranges.. Any other clarification required please mail to my I’d .Thanks. Sir.

        • G.S. Oberoi. says

          February 6, 2019 at 11:17 pm

          Dear Shri M.K.Kumar,
          Thank you for your prompt response.
          To clarify further, my total qualifying service is 34 years 8 months from 1.8.1953 to 31.3.1988(date of retirement).
          I was promoted to JAG post of Deputy Director (equivalent to SE, CPWD) on 15.5.1970. This post then carried the pay scale of Rs. 3700/- to 5000/- in IV CPC Terms, but was upgraded from 1.1.96 and given the scale of Rs. 14300/- to 18300/- (V CPC Terms).
          I was promoted to the Functionally Higher Level Post of Director on 10.12. 1980(the highest scale post that existed in the department for the Cadre) hand held it till my retirement.
          But the Post was not recommended any Revised pay scale by V CPC as it had become defunct in 1989 with the change in Recruitment Rules. Presumably, it was to be appropriately upgraded to the scale of Chief Engineer, CPWD(Rs. 18400/- to 22400/- ,w.e.f. 1.1.96) to maintain Horizontal and Vertical Relativities.
          However, since no Commensurate Revised scale for this Erstwhile Post has still been notified as required under Para. 168.3 of V CPC Report, in spite of all efforts made, I am forced to claim my pension in the post of Deputy Director, as if I was not promoted to any higher Post after 15.5.1970, till my retirement on 31.3.1988.
          That is why I am claiming pension at 18th stage in Concordance Table 44.
          The doubt, however, arose as two different figures of Rs. 87750/- and 67250/- were possible. I request you to enlighten me on my claim.
          As pointed out earlier, my juniors who retired from this post with less service than 17 years in the post are drawing much higher pension than the minimum of Rs. 61550/-.
          Thanking you. I am intentionally keeping my query simple to save your time.
          I can send you all the details on your email you have kindly supplied. But I don’t want you to spend so much of your valuable time on this case. Thanking you again.
          With regards and best wishes, GS Oberoi. Noida.

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          • G.S. Oberoi. says

            February 7, 2019 at 3:58 pm

            Dear Shri MK Kumar,
            Sorry to have posted my reply twice, as I thought my first Reply failed to get posted.
            Thanks. GS Oberoi.

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  10. M.K.Kumar says

    February 3, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    This is to inform you that this site and viewers to solve the problem of not know person’s doughts are settling answers with the orders and rules. Actually National Committee Leaders, recognised Pensioners Association Members are settle your policy matters as you mentioned. Kindly approach with your problem & settle the issues, it will be benefited all. Thanks.

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  11. G.S. Oberoi. says

    February 3, 2019 at 12:26 am

    Dear Shri M.K. Kumar,
    Thanks for your reply dated 10th August, 2018 to my query t0 DoE and DoP&PW, which I saw just now.
    I am sorry to point out that your reply does not give me the answer, as explained, below:
    I retired from the post of Deputy Director, Survey of India(a Central Engineering Service) on 31.3.1988. This Post (being equivalent to SE, CPWD), was Upgraded and given the scale of Rs. 14300/- to 183oo/- (corresponding to Rs. 4500/- to 5700/- in terms of IV CPC), w.e.f. 1.1.96. All the Deputy. Directors, in service on 1.1.96 in the Survey of India were, accordingly, PLACED in the Scale of Rs. 14300/- to 18300/- from 1.1.96.
    The scale of pay for the Post, during my service was, however, Rs.37oo/- to 5000/- The last pay drawn in the lower scale then prevailing is, therefore, IRRELEVANT, for the purpose of my Pension fixation on 1.1.2016.
    The only proper course, therefore, is to use the applicable Concordance Table No. 44 for the Post, provided by the Gov’t., for the purpose.
    Since the Concordance Table 44 for Retirees during IV CPC period does not cater to a pensioner who has served for over 13 years in that post before retirement, I have used the Table applicable to those who retired in VI CPC period, as the Pension is to be the Same, IRRESPECTIVE of Date of Retirement under DoP&PW OM of 17.12.1998, for Modified Parity w.e.f. 1.1.96, now extended to Full Parity from 1.1.2016, by use of applicable Concordance Tables provided for the purpose. I served in that Post for over 17 years before retirement.
    The doubt arose as two different figures for Pension as on 1.1.2016 are possible. Kindly read my query to DoE and DoP&PW, again and clarify.
    It is also important for the DoP&PW to clarify to All concerned through a General Order, that the Normal/Routine practice of Revising pension by reference to Last pay drawn, in cases of those whose Posts were Upgraded After their retirement, is NOT to be resorted to. And that, in their cases, the Pension is to be revised by the use of applicable Concordance Table for the Upgraded scale, provided for the purpose.
    I would be grateful for your kind reply. Thanking you, GS Oberoi.

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    • M.K.Kumar says

      February 3, 2019 at 1:50 pm

      This is to inform you that this site and viewers to solve the problem of not know person’s doughts are settling answers with the orders and rules. Actually National Committee Leaders, recognised Pensioners Association Members are settle your policy matters as you mentioned. Kindly approach with your problem & settle the issues, it will be benefited all. Thanks.

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  12. G.S. Oberoi. says

    August 9, 2018 at 11:34 pm

    To
    Secreyary, DoE
    Secretary, DoP&PW
    Sir,
    I had made a comment on 16.2.2018 and desired to know whether a pensioner who retired from a post equivalent to S.E, CPWD with over 17 years’service in that post, would be eligible to Pension of Rs. 87750 or Rs. 67250.
    Kindly reply.
    (GS Oberoi.).

    Reply
    • M.K.KUMAR says

      August 10, 2018 at 12:28 pm

      ANSWER TO GS OBEROI : It depends upon his average 10 months basic pay. or his last basic pay whichever is higher pay. Moreover it depends upon his last basic pay & his scale of pay at the time of retirement, not to the equivalent post.

      Reply
  13. Cheni Ram Nath says

    February 24, 2018 at 9:54 am

    I retired from army on 31/12/2003, now my basic pension is Rs. 20067/-pm. What will be increased after beneficiaries given by the NDA government.

    Reply
  14. NIRMAL MAHAJAN says

    February 17, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    SIR,

    1. IT IS SUBMITTED THAT I HAVE RETIRED ON 31 AUG 2015 AND AS PER NOTIONAL REVISED PENSION, OUR PAYMENT FOR REVISE PENSION HAS ORDERED ON 05TH SEP 2017( FOR PRE 2016 PENSION) BUT IMPLEMENTATION HAS NOT YET BEEN DONE..

    2. MAY I KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WILL REQUIRE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE ABOVE ISSUE.

    Reply
  15. GS Oberoi. says

    February 16, 2018 at 9:50 am

    To
    The Secretary, Do Expenditure.
    The Secretary, DoP&PW.
    Sir,
    Most respetfully, it is submitted that two separate Fitment tables under headings, ‘Minimum’ and ‘Maximum’ have been provided under Concordance Table 44, for those who retired during the VI CPC period. For a retiree from the post of SE, CPWD(or equivalent in CE Services) with over 17 years’ service as SE, CPWD at the time of retirement, his entitlement of pension on 1.1.2016 under the two tables comes to Rs. 87,750 and Rs. 67, 250. It is presumed that he would be allowed to the higher of the two figures, as clarified by the Apex Court, that when more than one options/interpretations are possible, the one more favourable to the pensioner is to be preferred. Kindly confirm.
    Also, since the accepted Principle of Parity implies same pension irrespective of date of retirement, it may kindly be further confirmed that the above pensioner will be entitled to. Rs. 87,750 as his pension irrespective of when he retired.
    The above points may kindly be clarified in a General Order for the guidance of all Pension Sanctioning and Payment Authorities to avoid different interpretations leading to avoidable Anomalies.
    Yours faithfully,
    (GS Oberoi) President,
    All India Association of Retired Officers of Survey of India(AIAROSI),
    J 133, Sector 25, Noida(UP). 201301.
    Tel:- 9811416099 for messages.

    Reply

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