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This Association has taken up the LDC/UDC, MACP on Promotional Hierarchy, and other issues related to Administrative Staff with Confederation.
Copy of the letter sent to the Secretary General, Confederation is given below: All our LDC/UDC friends are requested to raise the issue in their respective Association to force them to represent the issue to Confederation/JCM Staff Side.
ALL INDIA ASSOCIATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF (NG)
MINISTRY OF STATISTICS AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION
Bhopal,
Dated 25/11/2015
To
Com. M Krishnan,
Secretary General,
Confederation of Central Government Employees & Workers,
New Delhi
Dear comrade,
This is in connection with LDC/UDC, MACP on Promotional hierarchy and other issues related to Administrative Staff of Subordinate offices. It is surprising to note that the 7th Pay Commission has turned down the genuine issue of LDC & UDC on the ground that the government has stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents.
If this is true, it is a matter of great concern that the Government has chosen to take a unilateral decision on an important policy matter without consulting the Staff side. The reason given for rejection of the demand is not convincing.
Besides Confederation/Staff Side JCM, several Departments had recommended upgradation of grade pay of LDC & UDC of Administrative Offices especially the LDC & UDCs of subordinate offices of Government of India.
Extracts of the Pay Commission comments on the matter is given below:
By analyzing the demand of SVP, National Police Academy under Para 11.22.100 the Commission has said “This issue has been dealt in Chapter 7.7. Recommendations made there would apply in this case also”
As against the demand of Directorate of Printing under Para 11.52.32 Commission maintained that “posts like LDC, UDC, Accountant are common to a number of ministries/ departments. Recommendations regarding their pay are contained in Chapter 7.7 and Chapter 11.35.”
But, in Chapter 7.7, deals common category, no recommendation for LDC/UDC is given.
However by recording disagreement to increase promotional quota of MTS to LDC under Para 7.7.37 & 11.35.28 Commission has said that “government has already stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents, this demand cannot be accepted.”
But the fact is that Staff Selection Commission is frequently conducting recruitment for the post of LDC. Combined higher secondary examination for the selection of LDC also has been conducted recently.
Moreover, no alternative recommendation to replace the LDC post is given in the report. It is to be noted that the normal ratio of LDC and UDC in subordinate offices is 5:2 and thus LDCs have been allocated responsible sections and in many smaller offices LDC alone is handling the work of entire Administration.
On the other hand rejecting Central Secretariat Clerical service demand for parity with DEO, the commission observes “Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different.
Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.”(Para 11.35.38).
Historically these cadres may be different set of roles but the fact is that functions of LDC are more complex than that of DEO and same was brought before the commission by various Associations/Administrative Authorities.
Earlier pay Commissions have fixed Pay Scale to DEO considering their work on computer. But today LDCs are selected on the basis of their expertise in computer operation also.
By concluding the LDC issue, I give hereunder two comments among the dozens of comments/e-mail received us on the subject. This signifies the sufferings of LDCs in subordinate offices.
(1) I am really disappointed with the decision of 7th CPC, I was hoping that I would get atleast GP 2400 as per their calculation, they don’t even think about lower classMyself Ashutosh, LDC and I am appointed on 2012, 3000 KM far from my house and from last 2 years I am doing the work of cashier along with all the work of Income Tax and budget, apart from me 4 more LDC’s are working here instead of UDC’s and they are the backbone of their branch but as per 7th CPC words we are not having as much responsible work they think LDC’s are recruits only for “dispatch” and “typing” which is not true.
I request to them, sir please come and see how much responsibility we have and what we are getting,
(2) I am s murugan LDC, handling with pay bills, income tax, TDS and what are related to taxable income such as LTC encashment, final bills, HRA claim and etc…
In 7th Cpc report every where it is stated that this is dealt with chapter 7.7 and 11.35. But, there are no clear instructions for clerical.
The major error is clerical cadre is not included in common categories (chapter 7).
II Grant of MACP on Promotional Hierarchy:
Even though the Confederation has clarified that the Commission has recommended MACP on promotional hierarchy, the report of the Commission is confusing and contradictory.
Para 5.1.44 reads in the new Pay matrix, the employees will move to the immediate next level in the hierarchy. This can be interpreted as fixation in the same principle as that for a regular promotion. But Para 11.52.45 is contradictory.
III The Grade Pay of Assistants/Stenographers of Central Secretariat is brought down to Rs. 4200 from the existing Rs. 4600 and NFSG granted to the UDCs of Central Secretariat has been withdrawn thereby the demand for parity with the Grade Pay of Assistant/UDC of Central Secretariat is turned down.
Comrades, Government is bent upon to contractorise all the Administrative posts below the post of Assistants. The demand for merger of Grade Pay of LDC & UDC and upgradation to Rs. 2800, as recommended by the staff side is genuine in accordance with duties assigned.
Confederation/JCM (Staff Side) is requested to please help LDC/UDC and other Administrative Staff of subordinate Offices to resolve these genuine issues.
Yours fraternally
TKR Pillai
General Secretary
Source : AIAMSHQ
I am also really disappointed with the decision of 7th CPC, I was hoping that I would get at least GP 4200 as per their calculation, they don’t even think about lower class. Myself PRABIR PAUL, UDC and I am appointed on 1994, I am working as a single UDC under ISMU Project Circle where 3 Project Division (Two Civil & One Electrical). I have maintained all work like Correspondence and accounts along with Planning work, under these four office. After completing 20 years I have got 2nd MACP which GP Rs. 2800/- on 23.05.2014, As per 7th CPC words we are not having as much responsible work they think UDC’s are recruits only for “normal work” which is not true.
I request to them, sir please come and see how much responsibility we have and what we are getting,
poor scale of LDC
Sir I would like to bring in your notice that MACP after 10 years is given to LDC but it is being fixed on Grade Pay of only 2000 only 100 rs increase in there previous grade pay of 1900. Sir after 10 years of service only 100 rs increase in grade pay is seriously unexpected and unbelievable. Sir it is humble request from all the LDC to please look into this matter as it is almost 20-25 years the problem of cadre review is still pending.
I humbly request the Confederation to kindly include the other field/operational staff under same grade pay of Rs. 1900/2000 like Bus Drivers, Conductors etc. (having and bearing Risk of their Lives) working under State Govt.’s Department of State Transport. Considering their Heavy Duty with Life’s Risk these categories of employees also may kindly be included in LDC/UDC issue.
I humbly request the Confederation to kindly include the other field/operational staff under same grade pay of Rs. 1900/2000 like Bus Drivers, Conductors etc. (having and bearing Risk of their Lives) working under State Govt.’s Department of State Transport.
As per 7th CPC Annual Increment = 3%
But In the Pay matrix (in some cases it is less than 3%)
Ex. :- In level 7, 60400 is a slab, whose 3% is 1812. So after increment someone pay will be 60400+1812 =62212. But in pay matrix next slab is 62200.(<62212)that shows this pay matrix contradicts the statement Annual increment= 3%.
Dear sir ,
1. Whether it is true that the Grade Pay of the Assistant Engineers in CPWD is Rs. 4600/- upto 6 th pay comission whereas the Grade pay in most of the state PWD’s is Rs. 5400/- and also that the AE’s posted at CPWD have to serve across country and on remote border areas whereas in state most of the time the Assistant Engineers serve within the area of their Home Town.
2. Whether it is true that the Pay Scales of the Assistant Engineers & Junior Engineers were higher than any state PWD upto 4th pay Commission?
3. Whether it is true
a) That there is only Rs. 400/- difference in grade pay of JE & AE, however JE promote AE (E) after serving almost 22 years as JE.
b) That this difference was Rs. 600/- in 4th Pay Commission and Rs. 1500/- in 5th Pay Commission.
4. If yes what action the Government is taking to avoid this huge disparity in their pay scales.
5. the initial grade pay of junior engineer in cpwd should be atleast Rs 4600/- , Because most of junior engineer rectt. in this deptt. degree level/ post graduate level.
so i request to govt. take necessary action to solve the engineers pay dispariety.
It is very true upgradation of grade pay of LDC must be done as they are made to do work with higher responsibilities and each and every Pay Commission have neglected there demands of upgradation and Cadre review.
Its really strange that 7th CPC has stated that annual increment will be 3% ? Is it so? See the examples below:
1. Level 1 = 18000 x 3 + 540 = 180540 but it is 18500
2. Level 7 = 44900 x 3 = 1347 = 46247 but it is 46200
3. Level 8 = 47600 x 3 = 1428 = 49028 but it is 49000
4. Level 11 = 66700 x 3 = 2031 = 69731 but it is 69700
5. Level 13A = 131100 x 3 = 3933 = 135033 but it is 135000
6. Level 14 = 144200 x 3 = 4326 = 148526 but it is 148500
This is at the Index no. 2 and even on alternate index levels less than 3% increment has been added.
This is really not good.
7th CPC should at least rectify this along with other changes.
As per para 11.12.140 – The committee recommends that all officers in organized accounts cadre who are in GP 4800 should be upgraded on completion of four year service to GP 5400 pay level 9. without parity of CSS section officers. This is a welcoming/appreciable recommendation.
In that event, AAO who gets regular promotion after completion of residency period/dpc as Accounts Officer should be at level 10 ( presently the Accounts Officer/Audit Officers in GP 5400 PB2 (level 9). Similarly the non functional upgradation from Audit Officer/Accounts Officer after 4 years to be placed in Level 11 (presently GP 5400 pay band 3). Thereafter each level in promotional hierarchy to be upgraded to level 12 and so on.. This needs to be taken care of by commrades of Audit and Accounts Officers association.